In Bar (2007)

they think that if we show the violence in a different way we will be more creative ...but they do not respect to mother identity..and they don't want us to watch all the film because we couldn't stand it only one hour.... everyone left the place... No human being can afford to stay meanwhile those guys are having fun with the girls that will make you think if they were your girlfriends or anyone you know.We should not make producers think they are on the way to win with this film.We must think clearly that anywhere anything may happen to anyone but the way to be more conscious is not the way on this movie to watch.People that will be conscious by the help of the film are not much more than ones that will probably make those behaviours unconsciously or consciously on another people so this way is wrong to be object lesson

Fmovies: Hard to abide the realism of this striking movie...

Not the blood and the excess violence but the pure reality of - how anybody do something like that to other- caused some of the audience leave the movie in the first half.

We have seen these kinds of headlines everyday in the third pages of newspapers (maybe not as barbaric as this) and get used to these kinds of savagery news. But to see this realism in a well-played and directed movie shocked the most movie goers.

These kinds of things is happening all around the world and makes the victims' whole life non-tolerable.

Thanks to Serdar Akar for his plain directing and also would like congratulate Serdar Orcin for his great play as a psychopath. One of my best in Turkish movies.

This is one of the VERY few movies i couldn't stand till the end. Is it because the movie is bad? No, Not at all. May be the film was way too good that I Really felt the sorrow of the victims. What hit me for the first place was, the victims were just like people like me or my friends or my family. NORMAL, usual people. Not heroic or "angel-good" movie characters.

With a pure emphatic approach I felt that I would do exactly the same as the victims... Disturbing. A dark catastrophe surrounds you in the dark saloon of the movie. I couldn't stand it till the end. Not to spoil the joy of watching such a good handled movie I will not give any details of the violence but I can not pass prising the cast. The actors are amazing and well fit for their rolls.

If you decide to watch the movie i just wish you GOOD LUCK.

In Bar fmovies. A good example for convincing that Turkish filmmakers CAN do good movies too.

The story been told is presented in a sharp way and not interfered to prove any moral ideas (except for the end of the movie).Because the story itself has a lot to say and makes it easier for the director to show the causes of events. But it seems that director couldn't stand keeping the story this way until the end. It's not a surprise that such events in the movie inspire a mixture of intense feelings such as desperation and vengeance. Well that's where the director fell into the trap. If the movie did not end the way it did and the audience left the movie with the realistic consequences of a brutal event's after(not left with the relief that the bad got what they deserved), it could be much affective to establish the sense that the director passionately believed. It seems that director kept his words for the end. The world is changing and now we do can make differences and are not that desperate. That's why the ending is unnecessarily long. To listen to the director!

Rest of the movie is a way different story. The characters really remind you easily like "oh man, this is gonna be bad!" just by their existence. The struggle between two different way of understanding life is just simply screened. The clues for causes behind the physical violence are "injected" slowly, consciously and agreeably. The places and characters are familiar with the usual life we have.

I don't agree with the idea that the violence shown is unnecessarily much. On the contrary, you just happen to understand that a very brutal action carries on while you don't actually see it. It just gives you the clue of the action but not unnecessarily giving. This is not a "Hostel" type movie. I also found it absurd to define a true story been filmed as a teenagers daydreams. It seems that the main point here is missing. Yes, the jail scenes are not that convincing. And yes, the director became a little emotional. But that shows you even the filmmaker could not resist responding to the manner in the way we "common people" respond. And it proves that the actual problems of our society is reminded. (Maybe not that deliberately but that's the result.)

Turkish cinema is constantly maturing. This is one of the best explorations of the social divide and culture of envy present in modern Turkey. Inevitable comparisons are made to works of Haneke, particularly to Funny Games. The film does not have the virtuosity of Haneke, but it also does not have Haneke's patronising, barely disguised sermons against bourgeoisie. The middle class young people are not hedonistic, divorced from reality buffheads. They exist within a different reality from the nether class hoons that invade their world. Some left-leaning Turkish viewers that would like to see any city-dwelling Turk from a non-working class background as vermin will not be pleased. However, social strata in Turkey is not black and white anymore - if it ever were...

It won't be a spoiler to state that the violent scenes are difficult to watch and some might find those out of place in a film that is decidedly anti-violence. To me, the uber-realism of those scenes carried the subtext of the film: Do not kid yourself. Violence is ugly, brutal and it never leads to anything positive. There is no justification for it.

Thanks to the viewer that had recognized the directors at the end of the film. I would have missed that message if it weren't for him/her. Not that it would have made any difference to my assessment.

This is not a Haneke film, they are not in the same league. This fact doesn't harm this special film. It's special because it gives the universal brutality of human nature in a local way. Bad guys are doing wonderful job in their particular performances. Nejat Isler, playing brutal yet charismatic gang leader in a very convincing way. Other bad guys were also doing wonderful job, they are so hateable! Many of movie goers didn't like the "tgg"(reconsider) philosophy in the movie. I don't agree, this is some kind of call for sanity, even after such a brutal experience. Being human or just not being... I highly recommend this hard hitting film, makes you go hmm...